I've noticed you shutting people down when they express interest in other characters in the game lately, which has struck me as a little weird. Unless I misread something, prior statements seemed to imply that while it wasn't something you were planning on, an expansion to the datable roster was something you were considering for once the project was done and you had the time and energy for it. I understand if that's changed (though the statement seems to be the same as before) but it still struck me as a bit odd, and a bit unfortunate. I would have looked forward to a story centered on Nasher, and especially one for Leia. I know having her as an option would make bisexuals like myself very happy, and I stand by what I said about both of them; that the feels that could be unpacked with Leia would make for an excellent story, and that Nasher being ace doesn't strictly preclude eligibility on the datable roster, even if it's a little weird.
At the end of the day, I know none of this is my choice to make, but I hope you don't mind if I express a little sadness that these stories probably won't happen, and hold out a little hope that once this project is done, you'll still consider it. All that said, even if Leia and Nasher would help to break up the monotony in the current roster of exclusively large men, I still like those large men, and will happily stick around to see how their stories end.
It seems we have reached a point in development that I need to clarify a few things moving forward. These are all choices between the writer and the artist, which we are very adamant and firm about.
We don't really shut down if someone expresses interest in a character. That goes against our own attitude of doing the same to any game we play (Rove my beloved WudWud). But you might have misinterpreted what I was doing.
While yes, I am shutting down some comments, I am actually just shutting down the thought of adding new dateables to the game. It's not a character specifically. It was the same during early builds with Gerald and Garu, before Nasher and Leia even had a chance to show themselves.
It is mostly to avoid false hope. We have our own copium moments like with Silksong (EDIT: Okay not a copium moment anymore XD) and Monster hunter bringing back underwater hunting, but what we don't want copium for is having our characters be dateables when we are firm that they will never be. We think that false hope and dream is too harsh, so we want to ground to reality. We, Hopkeeper, will not make anyone into a dateable due to lack of time and resources.
We did thought about it in early development, and it is now impossible for us to add additional dateables without delaying the game's development further. I am sure you are already aware from everyone else's comments that while our game does not often update as fast as others, we try to deliver equal attention to all dateables, with each one having the same amount of days and content so that there is no one route that shows bias. This also ensures the overarching story gets equal attention too, because as we keep mentioning, we want to also tell a story.
If we are to add an additional character, since I did try to do the math in terms of updates, if I were to add Nasher in the same equality, or even at least 1 villager as an open choice, the 6 main dateables will get their Day 23 finished by the end of next year. Just so Nasher can get caught up. That is including our busy lives and as well as the fact that we are keeping it just the two of us, so it remains spoiler free as we are doing now. Basically, the sex update will be at the end of next year. Earliest. And we are just two people.
Yes, it is saddening that your favorite character is not dateable. We are aware of that and know that there still people that are pretty much yelling at us to add Nasher/Leia/Gerald/Garu/Grano for some reason. But that is the thing. We just cannot. It is not that we don't want to. We just cannot. It is simply too much for us to sacrifice that much time and effort for 1 character this late in the development. This also include poly, cross routes, and even new variants of villagers. Imagine Chapter 3 when it is poly, then imagine we have to do it 6x6 events. Or even just 1 poly.
Another reason is that in life, not everyone is available. While yes they are attractive, but they have their own reasonings as why they are not open. Be it personal or trauma. As such, I want to have that feeling remain. Nasher is not just a character I adore writing, as well as Leia, but their main purpose is to be a supportive friend, and they only want that. Nasher is, and I even hinted and wrote in the game, he is Ace. While he isn't aromantic, can you really say that a game that will have sex scenes in the next update, and Nasher won't have one just cause he isnt attracted to you sexually? Won't that be much more left out? if I make him, isn't that forcing yourself on him? I don't want to walk on that road. I have too much respect for people who are both Aro and Ace.
And I won't add Leia cause... I cannot write women troubles... It would be a disservice if I write one without even having a single female friend... This is more of a me problem than anything else really. So... at least let me apologize for not being able to write women properly. Downsides of being really unattracted to women...
Overall, this is a developer choice.
We don't want to raise hope flags when it is happening, and we don't want everyone to fight about it. We just want to set it straight that there is no convincing us on adding additional characters, in game or even suggestions. We just cannot do it, and we want to at least promise a game we can make, rather than set it up for failure with too much expectations.
At the end of the day, we just want to make a story. Monster Village is a love letter to monster hunter fans, furries, and visual novel readers. It is our first work and we want to keep it simple in terms of our plans/navigation. No bullshit, no lies, no drama. Just two idiots making a game so we can happily watch everyone play.
I just wanted to explain ourselves here since it is rather important for both of the writer and the artist to be extremely transparent. We hope you understand our intentions and respect our choices on this.
That's understandable. You have to draw the line somewhere, otherwise the project will never finish. I still stand by what I said, and I went into more detail about it the first time around, but I can get that not being a choice you want to make, and it's not my place to impose. If you were to consider it, getting the project done should come first, and calling it and not worrying about expanding it to make sure it is well and truly finished is a fine choice too.
Thanks for the clarification. I look forward to seeing how you finish this.
We have no idea when the next update will be. At most it will take a few months from now, but all I can tell you is that you must wait.
And just a heads up, it may be better if this question isn't asked numerous times. It would not do any good for the devs' psyches if they are asked this multiple times.
I love it the only issue i got is that theres no nasher route.
every scene this lovely goofball is in he steals the show and as a certified nargacuga myself i am extremely sad that i cant give him my heart :( please make a route for him he absolutely deserves it
Sorry but we wont be adding anymore routes. This is final, no matter who it is. Just like in life, not everyone will be available as they also have preferences/choices.
Sorry but we wont be adding anymore routes. This is final, no matter who it is. Just like in life, not everyone will be available as they also have preferences/choices.
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I've noticed you shutting people down when they express interest in other characters in the game lately, which has struck me as a little weird. Unless I misread something, prior statements seemed to imply that while it wasn't something you were planning on, an expansion to the datable roster was something you were considering for once the project was done and you had the time and energy for it. I understand if that's changed (though the statement seems to be the same as before) but it still struck me as a bit odd, and a bit unfortunate. I would have looked forward to a story centered on Nasher, and especially one for Leia. I know having her as an option would make bisexuals like myself very happy, and I stand by what I said about both of them; that the feels that could be unpacked with Leia would make for an excellent story, and that Nasher being ace doesn't strictly preclude eligibility on the datable roster, even if it's a little weird.
At the end of the day, I know none of this is my choice to make, but I hope you don't mind if I express a little sadness that these stories probably won't happen, and hold out a little hope that once this project is done, you'll still consider it. All that said, even if Leia and Nasher would help to break up the monotony in the current roster of exclusively large men, I still like those large men, and will happily stick around to see how their stories end.
Hi.
It seems we have reached a point in development that I need to clarify a few things moving forward. These are all choices between the writer and the artist, which we are very adamant and firm about.
We don't really shut down if someone expresses interest in a character. That goes against our own attitude of doing the same to any game we play (Rove my beloved WudWud). But you might have misinterpreted what I was doing.
While yes, I am shutting down some comments, I am actually just shutting down the thought of adding new dateables to the game. It's not a character specifically. It was the same during early builds with Gerald and Garu, before Nasher and Leia even had a chance to show themselves.
It is mostly to avoid false hope. We have our own copium moments like with Silksong (EDIT: Okay not a copium moment anymore XD) and Monster hunter bringing back underwater hunting, but what we don't want copium for is having our characters be dateables when we are firm that they will never be. We think that false hope and dream is too harsh, so we want to ground to reality. We, Hopkeeper, will not make anyone into a dateable due to lack of time and resources.
We did thought about it in early development, and it is now impossible for us to add additional dateables without delaying the game's development further. I am sure you are already aware from everyone else's comments that while our game does not often update as fast as others, we try to deliver equal attention to all dateables, with each one having the same amount of days and content so that there is no one route that shows bias. This also ensures the overarching story gets equal attention too, because as we keep mentioning, we want to also tell a story.
If we are to add an additional character, since I did try to do the math in terms of updates, if I were to add Nasher in the same equality, or even at least 1 villager as an open choice, the 6 main dateables will get their Day 23 finished by the end of next year. Just so Nasher can get caught up. That is including our busy lives and as well as the fact that we are keeping it just the two of us, so it remains spoiler free as we are doing now. Basically, the sex update will be at the end of next year. Earliest. And we are just two people.
Yes, it is saddening that your favorite character is not dateable. We are aware of that and know that there still people that are pretty much yelling at us to add Nasher/Leia/Gerald/Garu/Grano for some reason. But that is the thing. We just cannot. It is not that we don't want to. We just cannot. It is simply too much for us to sacrifice that much time and effort for 1 character this late in the development. This also include poly, cross routes, and even new variants of villagers. Imagine Chapter 3 when it is poly, then imagine we have to do it 6x6 events. Or even just 1 poly.
Another reason is that in life, not everyone is available. While yes they are attractive, but they have their own reasonings as why they are not open. Be it personal or trauma. As such, I want to have that feeling remain. Nasher is not just a character I adore writing, as well as Leia, but their main purpose is to be a supportive friend, and they only want that. Nasher is, and I even hinted and wrote in the game, he is Ace. While he isn't aromantic, can you really say that a game that will have sex scenes in the next update, and Nasher won't have one just cause he isnt attracted to you sexually? Won't that be much more left out? if I make him, isn't that forcing yourself on him? I don't want to walk on that road. I have too much respect for people who are both Aro and Ace.
And I won't add Leia cause... I cannot write women troubles... It would be a disservice if I write one without even having a single female friend... This is more of a me problem than anything else really. So... at least let me apologize for not being able to write women properly. Downsides of being really unattracted to women...
Overall, this is a developer choice.
We don't want to raise hope flags when it is happening, and we don't want everyone to fight about it. We just want to set it straight that there is no convincing us on adding additional characters, in game or even suggestions. We just cannot do it, and we want to at least promise a game we can make, rather than set it up for failure with too much expectations.
At the end of the day, we just want to make a story. Monster Village is a love letter to monster hunter fans, furries, and visual novel readers. It is our first work and we want to keep it simple in terms of our plans/navigation. No bullshit, no lies, no drama. Just two idiots making a game so we can happily watch everyone play.
I just wanted to explain ourselves here since it is rather important for both of the writer and the artist to be extremely transparent. We hope you understand our intentions and respect our choices on this.
Thank you reading,
Roda
That's understandable. You have to draw the line somewhere, otherwise the project will never finish. I still stand by what I said, and I went into more detail about it the first time around, but I can get that not being a choice you want to make, and it's not my place to impose. If you were to consider it, getting the project done should come first, and calling it and not worrying about expanding it to make sure it is well and truly finished is a fine choice too.
Thanks for the clarification. I look forward to seeing how you finish this.
when do you think we might see the next major update? i discovered this game back in feb and i absolutely love the cast
We have no idea when the next update will be. At most it will take a few months from now, but all I can tell you is that you must wait.
And just a heads up, it may be better if this question isn't asked numerous times. It would not do any good for the devs' psyches if they are asked this multiple times.
I love it the only issue i got is that theres no nasher route.
every scene this lovely goofball is in he steals the show and as a certified nargacuga myself i am extremely sad that i cant give him my heart :( please make a route for him he absolutely deserves it
Sorry but we wont be adding anymore routes. This is final, no matter who it is. Just like in life, not everyone will be available as they also have preferences/choices.
i herby request let me date gerald i want him to be my third daddy in this vn
Sorry but we wont be adding anymore routes. This is final, no matter who it is. Just like in life, not everyone will be available as they also have preferences/choices.
How do i get the jin romance because I keep getting the bad ending
Here are a few questions regarding that:
These two areas can get people confused, but if you do this, you'll be able to spend three days with Jin and allow you to go down his path.