I hate to break it to you, but Leo, Jin, Joseph, Ridge, Koku and Runan are the only ones we can get close to. I'm pretty sure adding another character route would require a lot more time and work as it would drastically alter the story and any other events that occur.
And let's not forget that they would require their own CGs, and all that other stuff since they have their own unique histories, personalities, and many other factors.
So yeah, as far as the game itself and the development process goes, I can't really see any additional routes being added, even if it were somehow possible. But one can imagine, right?
To be honest, I have very strong doubts about the origin of the True Wyverians. In the game they say that not even they know their origins, some have abilities that refer to their monsters, others do not. However, what I say is that I do not think that the very first True Wyverians appeared out of nowhere. I do not know if you are familiar with Monster Hunter Stories, the spin-off of the Monster Hunter series, there exist the Raiders, humans who coexist with monsters and who fight alongside them. My theory is that the very first True Wyverians were born through experiments with humans and monsters, combining their cells, disfiguring their bodies and thus giving birth to this new race that we know. "Why would they do that?", you are wondering, well... I think that the scientists who created the first True Wyverians lived in a Raider village and that they had ambitions. They wanted to make humans and monsters closer, both mentally and physically.
What do you think? Do you also have doubts about their origin?
Look, I would like to see the next update as much as the next person, but the devs have got their hands full with things going on in their daily lives, if you haven't heard.
So just be patient for a little while longer, okay? I'm sure they're doing their best.
I don't remember reading anything about them stopping for so long and that worried me a little. (Yes, I read that they were taking a short break to rest but that we would have a chapter by the end of the year.) I've noticed a lot of projects being frozen for years =/ this is kind of complex, but this need to at least add some post even if it's just with words is nice to keep everyone aware that "they're still among us" Anyway, I believe there are a lot of people excited since the vn is very well developed :p
PS: sorry for the tantrum, but I need to get this shi out 😭😭😭 because tell me why JUST WHY!!!?? I was enjoying my time romancing ridge but the FUVKERS. HOW DARE THEY BURN THE FVCKING VILLAGE!!! SOMEONE GIVE ME A FVCKING SWORD AND I WILL SLICE THESE BASTARDS INTO PIECES!!!!!!!
I read it whole, at first sign I just thought is was a romance game, but the third episode... It changes everything. I loved that it's Ace Atterney like, it was fun until... we won. Seems like we are gonna see a lot of character development in the future. At least I hope Leo won't stay all careless and playfull... it just doesn't feel right, not after everything
I reached only end of kind of prologue(?) (where you meet all the characters) so far, but I already love that game. So very-very catchy and admiring piece, I'm fascinated that this done on renpy.
Hope updates will be done before I reach the end of actual version)
We are still working on the next update and its gonna be another big one. But life gets in the way hard for both of us, with both College and work, being the Christmas season and all... So hope we can pull through this month!
The game is really good and quite charming, my only complaint is that the part where you have to prove your chosen monster's innocence is not skippable so that is a little repetitive if you want to do all the routes.
You can actually fast forward through most of it, aside from the areas you need to make choices and where the dialog changes between routs. You just need to hold down Ctrl
Yeah, it certainly is, and there's even an 18+ warning (though there are no...spicy scenes as of yet). Even the devs themselves said as such, so I wouldn't recommend playing this game if you're not old enough or if you are averse to NSFW content.
Heya, I've just started playing the game and it's honestly looking really great so far. I do have one question that I can't seem to find specific info on in the comments or in game. I've been wondering how old all the true wyvarians are? If it's meant to be a reveal later on or spoilers than I can completely understand.
We wanted to hide the exact age of all the villagers until the end, but you can assume the dateables are about 20-40 ish (I don't think I need to specify who the oldest one is). This is mostly so we can be sure of the timeline of events since we are also working on backstories and info about them in the background.
True Wyverians, in general, do age slightly longer than humans, up to 150 years. The explanation can be found in the logbook which you can check it out anytime.
This seems to be an error relating to permissions on your computer, as this does not seem to be a common bug. I do have a few suggestions after a quick search; however, I am unsure exactly how to fix this until I recreate it.
- Run the game via administrator - Move the location of the game to another folder where you have full access to - Redownload the game to a different folder as it might have corrupted files (A bit unlikely since it's zipped, but may work)
Hey does anybody know if there is a way to tell whether you got a bad or good ending?, (besides assuming I mean) because I did a Runan playthrough and I cant tell by just the ending alone.
As far as I know, I know that there are three bad endings you could get (there might be more). You would be on the right track on your route if you saw "To Be Continued," at the very end, but otherwise...
Spoilers ahead. Read at your own risk.
1st Bad Ending(Days 4-7)
You do not spend at least three days with the villager of your choice.
2nd Bad Ending (Day 14)
You have one of the felynes stay behind instead of yourself.
3rd Bad Ending (Day 17)
You make too many mistakes in the trial.
A bad ending would be signified by a wall of text against a black background. Not to mention that the overall tone of the text is highly ominous. I should know, since I inadvertently got the second one in a reckless fashion...
Ahh ok thank you I just couldn't tell at the time because it seemed ominous, so thanks a ton I heavly appreciate it because it would've eaten away at me.
I love this story and I laughed when I saw the fact it was a Phoenix Right style in chapter 3, I was not expecting that. Also, question for everyone, do you ever get that feeling when you already have a love interest you wanna end up with but then after going through another route you fall in love with an character that you start to question which one you wanna have as your canon lover? ...Cuz I am...with Jin and Runan
I can't really blame you for feeling that way. I mean, all six of 'em are very much admirable in their own ways. Their personalities make them so charming (Leo might need some getting used to, though)!
If you ask me? I really like (or love) all six of them! They're all so precious, and I would do anything to make them happy!
I really hope I can invite them out later on in the future...
Very good story so far! I'm very intrigued to know what comes next. However, I do admit that I didn't really enjoy the whole "trial" thing, but everything else has been great. I heavily look forward to the next chapter!
This was a very interesting story. However, the author's lack of understanding of legal trials made the second half really tough to slog through. For instance, in Japanese and Western-style courts (which this seems to be mimicking, in homage to Ace Attorney), the burden of proof is always on the prosecution. You also cannot hold a population responsible for the actions of a single member and enact group punishment; this is literally a war crime. It's also a serious crime to withhold evidence from the defense. The defense is also entitled to voir dire any perspective witnesses ahead of time, and both sides are required to provide a list of all witnesses. If this was not attempting to mimic Ace Attorney, these nitpicks would not matter much. I would urge the author to consult someone with more knowledge of legal trials in any future revisions.
The following is a response to above, mostly explain intentions and our thought process since we have thought about this before writing. It is... rather long since we just want to be clear and firm. Apologies if I overexplain myself:
While I appreciate the critique about the legal proceedings in chapter 3, I would like to say the entire event is just a more dramatic way to explain a rather tense situation. It is not meant to mimic any official legalities of real-life law, especially since the game does not have the same rules that govern us (to an extent as some of the parts I added in writing are non-canon to the source material).
While yes, it is supposed to be a reference to AA gameplay and art-wise, it is just only that. A massive reference. I wrote this in a sense to answer a question I had while brainstorming a year ago: "How would a trial work if it is not official, yet handled by officials?" to which I ignored all presumptions of rules that usually prolong stories like these and made it so that each character is doing this just because of emotion and pride especially since the parties involved are nowhere near the profession that they are supposed to mimic. This is the equivalent of a veteran, a police man, and a private investigator making their own courtroom. Because of that, I may not change the process and proceeding if I am to edit this section. I may clarify some moments after I get a better idea, but overall, it is not a legal trial because it is not the right people, yet it is a reasonable action at the time and conflict if we consider the setting.
Ace Attorney, which does have the same governed rules as us, means that they have to follow the law that is the same as ours. Preparing witnesses and evidence and exchanging info are mainly required and, most of all, legal. However, other than preparing evidence, it is not a luxury everyone is allowed in the situation I made. While, yes, legalities are essential as a reference, so are the setting and the situation in which I placed them. Which to be fair, the Scriviner did say later on that "this is not a real trial" since the intention is not to incriminate them but rather knowing what actually happened.
I want to explain myself on this as I expected; specifically, some would critique the Chapter 3 event as not being "correct" to real-life law, which is my intention. I wouldn't say I like it being too close to reality. If I am to mimic it and do actual research, this entire update will take many months to be accurate (as I do not have any friends in the legal business, especially the... niche of the situation.), and I do not want to force our readers to go through several unnecessary steps to explain and wait especially since the wait for this update was already too long. That, and I mostly just wanted to surprise people. Besides, that entire event is just 10-20% of the game, so it is not a focus to be so accurate as everyone is already screaming at me for monster seggs.
I can understand that. It just really dragged on and was not very self evident how to proceed at several points. I had to resort to brute forcing it in the end. If it can't be made more legally accurate, maybe it can be made to flow better.
If you're talking about gameplay, we did add a Guide that is available in our development log. While brute forcing is fine, as this is a visual novel and you can brute force anything there, we didn't want to lower the difficulty as we want it still be somewhat challenging. The flow might be revisited in the future, but that still mostly will be better explanations and maybe more hints if we are to add new content (Which to be fair, if you do question a certain line, it will show a hint so we thought it would be enough).
Maybe also because we are not really the best English speakers/writers and I genuinely sometimes think I am dyslexic with how I write and talk recently :v
As I said before, I really do like the story. I also really appreciate the artwork. You all did a great job. I look forward to the revisions in the future that improve the game.
One thought I had was a way to use the trust system to double as a sort of resource for hints, if the player needs them. Right now, you only lose trust if you make a wrong guess. Maybe you could also deliberately spend one of your trust points to get a hint. This would maintain the difficulty but allow us to get in-game hints if we need them. It could also serve as a way to get insight into what the main character is thinking at the time, how his mind functions. This might make the gameplay a bit more dynamic, too. Add a bit of a risk vs. reward mechanic.
Interesting proposition. I will consider this when I recheck the codes for the Chapter 3 event. For now, the Guide will suffice during development. Thank you for your insights!
Sure but it still creates some logical inconsistencies. Aside from that, when you have a world where the rules are different, it’s important to lay them out ahead of time, especially if you’re mimicking an actual Japanese court. This is a part of world building that’s important.
> Aside from that, when you have a world where the rules are different, it’s important to lay them out ahead of time
No, not really. Majority of readers have enough intelligence to pick up those rules on the fly as they witness them in action firsthand. “Laying rules ahead of time” is called “info-dumping”, and its a narrative tool that is rightfully criticized by both readers and writers alike.
That aside, game never explicitly tells that it try to mimick any sort of court. I’m not sure if you have noticed that or not, but societies in monster hunter universe aren’t exactly modern and progressive, and expecting a civilization that is stuck somewhere in stone age to be up to par to modern law rules is ridiculous.
There are ways to lay out rules and world build without info dumping. Info dumping is just the least talented way to do it. It can be incorporated into the story in ways that make sense and are interesting.
The court scene is mimicking Ace Attorney (which is confined by the author), which takes place in a Japanese court. But there’s more to it than just legal rules. There are many logical inconsistencies. It’s still an overall good story. I look forward to the changes that will come.
my old saves do work for certain routes (with some dialog misplacement, and my old Jo route save basically making me need to replay the whole game just to get to the point I was at in it, as I am doing all the character routes on different saves) but otherwise, the saves in this game are fairly hardy to updates!
Old saves are not compatible with the new update due to updating Renpy versions. Because of this, you would need to start fresh to avoid any bugs.
As for skipping the event, that will be implemented in the next update along with some other changes to music and sprites. However, right now, the event cannot be skipped outside of using the skip button (or pressing shift/ctrl on the keyboard
Your choices before this day matters. When visiting the construction area, be sure to ask on checking out Jin's house. If Jin says "ask Leo" instead of a reincheck, this means you did not hang out with him on prev days or did not choose the right responses. This is already a sign that you are locked out of his route. His route is purposefully made a bit harder to reach because of his mannerisms. Make sure to save often so you can reload if you ever make a mistake.
And in case some wonder, your dateable is not available all the time. Some days your dateable will not be available at all, because they are busy.
Not sure what specific part you're referring to, as the entire event leads up to that (hopefully, based on the decisions you've made), but regardless, the guide will tell you everything you need to know.
Umm... I think there's two things I need to tell you.
First, I'm not the dev, so there's no need to respond to me about continuing the story.
And second, your comment contains enough spoilers to run the entire length of all eight worlds in New Super Mario Bros. Wii. I hope you can edit your comment so that no one can see that.
This was the absolute fucking BEST VN I've played in a Hot damn minute. The roundabout at the end was fucking BRILLIANT! I'm unironically saying this but Bravo!
Es según mí opinión cada uno puede tener su favorito además fue el primer que probé y además termine cada ruta de los personajes hace 5 días unas me conmovieron mucho, otros me hizo llorar.
No puedo esperar por el capítulo 4 y continuar con la historia gracias por traernos este juego 👍 ♥️
Oh my god, this update was fire, I want the next chapter on my table tomorrow. But I know it is tiring to make a masterpiece, so instead I'm gonna ask you guys to rest, for everything you done, hell the vn became ace attorney, so you guys overdid yourselves with this update. Rest cuz afterall:
"Everyone needs time to heal! This includes yourself."
1st Joseph (What else can I say except dilf) 2nd Runan (very close to being first) 3rd Jin (Hes just a littly too innocent and that makes my heart melt) 4th Leo (Funny tease) 5th Ridge (Hes not bad but the others are better) 6th Koku (I just see a child so thats a nope)
Whoa there, calm down. I know you're eager for the next chapter, what with the story as it is right now, but the update's only been out for a month. The devs will need some more time before they can release the next one.
I don't know if you've read the devlogs yet, but I think I've heard the devs mention that they're aiming to release the next update before the end of the year (this is purely conjecture, but it could mean some time in December). If that's not to be, then maybe some time in January. Then again, it could take longer, because I'm pretty sure you know how many curveballs daily life likes to throw.
So until then, just be patient, okay? There's no need to pressure them like this...
It has been a single month since chapter 3, please be Patient.. If we over work them, it'll never get done. So instead of badgering them about it, please be Patient
I remember the devs saying that it's just not feasible right now. I'm pretty sure they've been thinking about it, but I don't think that'll be implemented any time soon.
It might just be me, but I think dating two characters at once would require additional dialogue and significant changes in story direction, and that will take a lot more time than intended.
As ShroudedLion said, we will not be implementing poly relationships mostly because we don't want it to be... "forced". Like how shipping between characters then inserting the Scriviner in that relationship, or vice versa.
Once we get a better idea of polycules, we might implement it, but with our current experience (both irl and in media), we are not ready to even dive into the thought yet.
I have a problem, I took the route of Koku, I had answered all the questions correctly up to a certain point, even with the medical evidence.
But then comes the point where it doesn't go any further, and then I took question five and then I took the bullet as proof and then I took question six, which didn't help either, and then I did the same thing again in reverse.
Then I had a quick look at the guide the developer posted here, right up to this point, only I looked at it and didn't do anything wrong.
This is a bug ? that is triggered by the game and prevents it from continuing.
Also, for anyone, questions regarding the Guide should be in the guide devlog instead to help others too.
I dont think I understood what you meant..... But I understand medical report so I am assuming you're in the second cross... but If you check the guide, the order of actions is important, otherwise it might just be the wrong evidence or line you're reading. (The reason why I didn't specify the line in the guide is to help you connect the dots rather than just breezing through, so it might be confusing on the numbering,)
For the second cross, question the 5th line, and the 6th line would change. Basically adding something new. Then present the evidence on the new info, which is the 6th line after questioning. Remember, if you are stuck, question every line. You will get new info and important hints. There is a hint in every cross that does help you even without checking the guide.
What I wanted to say is that I haven't used the help yet and I haven't had any problems with it so far, not even with the first cross, and something new has been added, that wasn't a problem.
But with the second cross, as I said, if I then ask the fifth question and then present the bullet as evidence, nothing new comes up and I've already tried everything.
nothing is updated and nothing new comes out of it, not even new dialogues.
And that's what I meant, and then I had a quick look at the help, but only up to the bullet, not everything else, because it really is a great mechanic and I really like it.
Because I don't need any other help, I just had a quick look at the second cross to see why it wasn't working and did what I'd already done without looking.
The only reason I can think of is that I used the save state from chapter 2 and this caused an error.
And I also want to give a big shout out to this VM, the characters are wonderfully written, every single one of them and in general it's a very special VM, which I haven't seen before in any other before one.
Hey there dev/s, just wanted to leave this message because this FVN honestly got me reading Ridge's route for like the 5th time and made an unfinished paper behind his attachment style, I can't get over with this character. The FVN's really good, just know to take as much time that you need to release the next chapter, I can tell the latest update was made with so much love and you guys had fun with that special addition. Keep up the great work.
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Will there be a route with Nasher?
I hate to break it to you, but Leo, Jin, Joseph, Ridge, Koku and Runan are the only ones we can get close to. I'm pretty sure adding another character route would require a lot more time and work as it would drastically alter the story and any other events that occur.
And let's not forget that they would require their own CGs, and all that other stuff since they have their own unique histories, personalities, and many other factors.
So yeah, as far as the game itself and the development process goes, I can't really see any additional routes being added, even if it were somehow possible. But one can imagine, right?
This VN caught me off guard, currently going through the trial and it's fucking amazing I didn't expect the Ace Attorney references at all lmao
To be honest, I have very strong doubts about the origin of the True Wyverians. In the game they say that not even they know their origins, some have abilities that refer to their monsters, others do not. However, what I say is that I do not think that the very first True Wyverians appeared out of nowhere. I do not know if you are familiar with Monster Hunter Stories, the spin-off of the Monster Hunter series, there exist the Raiders, humans who coexist with monsters and who fight alongside them. My theory is that the very first True Wyverians were born through experiments with humans and monsters, combining their cells, disfiguring their bodies and thus giving birth to this new race that we know. "Why would they do that?", you are wondering, well... I think that the scientists who created the first True Wyverians lived in a Raider village and that they had ambitions. They wanted to make humans and monsters closer, both mentally and physically.
What do you think? Do you also have doubts about their origin?
> My theory is that the very first True Wyverians were born through experiments with humans and monsters,
Somehow I doubt monster hunter tribes have access to that technology.
My friends? New things ? plz T_T
Look, I would like to see the next update as much as the next person, but the devs have got their hands full with things going on in their daily lives, if you haven't heard.
So just be patient for a little while longer, okay? I'm sure they're doing their best.
I don't remember reading anything about them stopping for so long and that worried me a little. (Yes, I read that they were taking a short break to rest but that we would have a chapter by the end of the year.)
I've noticed a lot of projects being frozen for years =/ this is kind of complex, but this need to at least add some post even if it's just with words is nice to keep everyone aware that "they're still among us"
Anyway, I believe there are a lot of people excited since the vn is very well developed :p
Oh, I assure you that they're still there. They might be quite active on Twitter, for what it's worth.
Look at this post they made on December 3.
That is cool, i speaked about post here... in oficial game page, in fact i need see the news in twiter :p
The game got me so depressed to the point where I cope with Ena5 ;(
Still more uplifitng than 80% of other fvns
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PS: sorry for the tantrum, but I need to get this shi out 😭😭😭 because tell me why JUST WHY!!!?? I was enjoying my time romancing ridge but the FUVKERS. HOW DARE THEY BURN THE FVCKING VILLAGE!!! SOMEONE GIVE ME A FVCKING SWORD AND I WILL SLICE THESE BASTARDS INTO PIECES!!!!!!!
Please someone tell me how can I go past this without the village burning 😢
just sellect your self
Ok I tried the third option where mc will stay, but..
Spoiler...
Life is not daijobu.. the elder frickin died man.. is the sky crying or am I? Huh.. I guess both.. ;~;
I read it whole, at first sign I just thought is was a romance game, but the third episode... It changes everything. I loved that it's Ace Atterney like, it was fun until... we won. Seems like we are gonna see a lot of character development in the future. At least I hope Leo won't stay all careless and playfull... it just doesn't feel right, not after everything
Give me a shotgun I'm gonna end that blue hat wearing guy myself... he made my Joseph depressed. !!!!!!!
Amazing game thought looking foward to see where the story heads now.
hahahaa, you mean using spread ammo at your heavy bow gun?
im really want to cry about jin background
🥲🥲🥲
the entry story is dope
I completed everything and chapter 3 is basically for the main part the same but with slight word changes.
You know, I'm really curious to know what the page with the illegible words in the old Scrivener's notes actually says.
I reached only end of kind of prologue(?) (where you meet all the characters) so far, but I already love that game. So very-very catchy and admiring piece, I'm fascinated that this done on renpy.
Hope updates will be done before I reach the end of actual version)
We are still working on the next update and its gonna be another big one. But life gets in the way hard for both of us, with both College and work, being the Christmas season and all...
So hope we can pull through this month!
duh life's hard sometimes)
ANYWAY. I'll be waiting for the future updates, your game already took a certain place in my mind (if I could say so) and it is not very common~
The game is really good and quite charming, my only complaint is that the part where you have to prove your chosen monster's innocence is not skippable so that is a little repetitive if you want to do all the routes.
You can actually fast forward through most of it, aside from the areas you need to make choices and where the dialog changes between routs. You just need to hold down Ctrl
not gonna lie the story is peak
Forgive me for the question, is this game NSFW?
Yeah, it certainly is, and there's even an 18+ warning (though there are no...spicy scenes as of yet). Even the devs themselves said as such, so I wouldn't recommend playing this game if you're not old enough or if you are averse to NSFW content.
The game doesn't feature explicit sexual content yet, but it has topics and scenarios that are not suitable for all ages.
Heya, I've just started playing the game and it's honestly looking really great so far. I do have one question that I can't seem to find specific info on in the comments or in game. I've been wondering how old all the true wyvarians are? If it's meant to be a reveal later on or spoilers than I can completely understand.
We wanted to hide the exact age of all the villagers until the end, but you can assume the dateables are about 20-40 ish (I don't think I need to specify who the oldest one is). This is mostly so we can be sure of the timeline of events since we are also working on backstories and info about them in the background.
True Wyverians, in general, do age slightly longer than humans, up to 150 years. The explanation can be found in the logbook which you can check it out anytime.
Hello, I'm unable to launch the game. When I click on the .exe file, a text document pops up, which contains the following content:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.
After loading the script.
IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: u'C:\\Users\\\udcc0\udcee\u0365\u0629\\AppData\\Roaming/RenPy/tokens\\upgraded.txt'
-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------
Full traceback:
File "renpy/bootstrap.py", line 359, in bootstrap
renpy.main.main()
File "renpy/main.py", line 513, in main
renpy.savetoken.upgrade_all_savefiles()
File "renpy/savetoken.py", line 256, in upgrade_all_savefiles
with open(upgraded_txt, "a") as f:
IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: u'C:\\Users\\\udcc0\udcee\u0365\u0629\\AppData\\Roaming/RenPy/tokens\\upgraded.txt'
Windows-10-10.0.22621 AMD64
Ren'Py 7.8.0.24082114
Help!!! I was lost and end up finding a Village full of Monsters! 0.6.3.1
Sun Nov 24 20:09:45 2024
This seems to be an error relating to permissions on your computer, as this does not seem to be a common bug. I do have a few suggestions after a quick search; however, I am unsure exactly how to fix this until I recreate it.
- Run the game via administrator
- Move the location of the game to another folder where you have full access to
- Redownload the game to a different folder as it might have corrupted files (A bit unlikely since it's zipped, but may work)
Thank you so much!I ran the game via administrator and it finally worked!!!
For future bugs, please comment on the version devlogs.
Hey does anybody know if there is a way to tell whether you got a bad or good ending?, (besides assuming I mean) because I did a Runan playthrough and I cant tell by just the ending alone.
As far as I know, I know that there are three bad endings you could get (there might be more). You would be on the right track on your route if you saw "To Be Continued," at the very end, but otherwise...
Spoilers ahead. Read at your own risk.
1st Bad Ending (Days 4-7)
You do not spend at least three days with the villager of your choice.
2nd Bad Ending (Day 14)
You have one of the felynes stay behind instead of yourself.
3rd Bad Ending (Day 17)
You make too many mistakes in the trial.
A bad ending would be signified by a wall of text against a black background. Not to mention that the overall tone of the text is highly ominous. I should know, since I inadvertently got the second one in a reckless fashion...
This is to confirm the above.
tldr, if you reach a To Be Continued, that is the end of the update, not an ending.
Ahh ok thank you I just couldn't tell at the time because it seemed ominous, so thanks a ton I heavly appreciate it because it would've eaten away at me.
I love this story and I laughed when I saw the fact it was a Phoenix Right style in chapter 3, I was not expecting that.
Also, question for everyone, do you ever get that feeling when you already have a love interest you wanna end up with but then after going through another route you fall in love with an character that you start to question which one you wanna have as your canon lover? ...Cuz I am...with Jin and Runan
I can't really blame you for feeling that way. I mean, all six of 'em are very much admirable in their own ways. Their personalities make them so charming (Leo might need some getting used to, though)!
If you ask me? I really like (or love) all six of them! They're all so precious, and I would do anything to make them happy!
I really hope I can invite them out later on in the future...
Oh hey, its Edelgard!
Haha, glad to see another FE: TH player here! (Though I was mostly referring to the teatime minigame here)
Very good story so far! I'm very intrigued to know what comes next. However, I do admit that I didn't really enjoy the whole "trial" thing, but everything else has been great. I heavily look forward to the next chapter!
This was a very interesting story. However, the author's lack of understanding of legal trials made the second half really tough to slog through. For instance, in Japanese and Western-style courts (which this seems to be mimicking, in homage to Ace Attorney), the burden of proof is always on the prosecution. You also cannot hold a population responsible for the actions of a single member and enact group punishment; this is literally a war crime. It's also a serious crime to withhold evidence from the defense. The defense is also entitled to voir dire any perspective witnesses ahead of time, and both sides are required to provide a list of all witnesses. If this was not attempting to mimic Ace Attorney, these nitpicks would not matter much. I would urge the author to consult someone with more knowledge of legal trials in any future revisions.
The following is a response to above, mostly explain intentions and our thought process since we have thought about this before writing. It is... rather long since we just want to be clear and firm. Apologies if I overexplain myself:
While I appreciate the critique about the legal proceedings in chapter 3, I would like to say the entire event is just a more dramatic way to explain a rather tense situation. It is not meant to mimic any official legalities of real-life law, especially since the game does not have the same rules that govern us (to an extent as some of the parts I added in writing are non-canon to the source material).
While yes, it is supposed to be a reference to AA gameplay and art-wise, it is just only that. A massive reference. I wrote this in a sense to answer a question I had while brainstorming a year ago: "How would a trial work if it is not official, yet handled by officials?" to which I ignored all presumptions of rules that usually prolong stories like these and made it so that each character is doing this just because of emotion and pride especially since the parties involved are nowhere near the profession that they are supposed to mimic. This is the equivalent of a veteran, a police man, and a private investigator making their own courtroom. Because of that, I may not change the process and proceeding if I am to edit this section. I may clarify some moments after I get a better idea, but overall, it is not a legal trial because it is not the right people, yet it is a reasonable action at the time and conflict if we consider the setting.
Ace Attorney, which does have the same governed rules as us, means that they have to follow the law that is the same as ours. Preparing witnesses and evidence and exchanging info are mainly required and, most of all, legal. However, other than preparing evidence, it is not a luxury everyone is allowed in the situation I made. While, yes, legalities are essential as a reference, so are the setting and the situation in which I placed them. Which to be fair, the Scriviner did say later on that "this is not a real trial" since the intention is not to incriminate them but rather knowing what actually happened.
I want to explain myself on this as I expected; specifically, some would critique the Chapter 3 event as not being "correct" to real-life law, which is my intention. I wouldn't say I like it being too close to reality. If I am to mimic it and do actual research, this entire update will take many months to be accurate (as I do not have any friends in the legal business, especially the... niche of the situation.), and I do not want to force our readers to go through several unnecessary steps to explain and wait especially since the wait for this update was already too long. That, and I mostly just wanted to surprise people. Besides, that entire event is just 10-20% of the game, so it is not a focus to be so accurate as everyone is already screaming at me for monster seggs.
Hope this helps clear it up!
I can understand that. It just really dragged on and was not very self evident how to proceed at several points. I had to resort to brute forcing it in the end. If it can't be made more legally accurate, maybe it can be made to flow better.
If you're talking about gameplay, we did add a Guide that is available in our development log. While brute forcing is fine, as this is a visual novel and you can brute force anything there, we didn't want to lower the difficulty as we want it still be somewhat challenging. The flow might be revisited in the future, but that still mostly will be better explanations and maybe more hints if we are to add new content (Which to be fair, if you do question a certain line, it will show a hint so we thought it would be enough).
Maybe also because we are not really the best English speakers/writers and I genuinely sometimes think I am dyslexic with how I write and talk recently :v
As I said before, I really do like the story. I also really appreciate the artwork. You all did a great job. I look forward to the revisions in the future that improve the game.
One thought I had was a way to use the trust system to double as a sort of resource for hints, if the player needs them. Right now, you only lose trust if you make a wrong guess. Maybe you could also deliberately spend one of your trust points to get a hint. This would maintain the difficulty but allow us to get in-game hints if we need them. It could also serve as a way to get insight into what the main character is thinking at the time, how his mind functions. This might make the gameplay a bit more dynamic, too. Add a bit of a risk vs. reward mechanic.
Interesting proposition. I will consider this when I recheck the codes for the Chapter 3 event. For now, the Guide will suffice during development. Thank you for your insights!
This is a fictional world tho, it doesn’t have to bend to the real one.
Sure but it still creates some logical inconsistencies. Aside from that, when you have a world where the rules are different, it’s important to lay them out ahead of time, especially if you’re mimicking an actual Japanese court. This is a part of world building that’s important.
> Aside from that, when you have a world where the rules are different, it’s important to lay them out ahead of time
No, not really. Majority of readers have enough intelligence to pick up those rules on the fly as they witness them in action firsthand. “Laying rules ahead of time” is called “info-dumping”, and its a narrative tool that is rightfully criticized by both readers and writers alike.
That aside, game never explicitly tells that it try to mimick any sort of court. I’m not sure if you have noticed that or not, but societies in monster hunter universe aren’t exactly modern and progressive, and expecting a civilization that is stuck somewhere in stone age to be up to par to modern law rules is ridiculous.
There are ways to lay out rules and world build without info dumping. Info dumping is just the least talented way to do it. It can be incorporated into the story in ways that make sense and are interesting.
The court scene is mimicking Ace Attorney (which is confined by the author), which takes place in a Japanese court. But there’s more to it than just legal rules. There are many logical inconsistencies. It’s still an overall good story. I look forward to the changes that will come.
If i may ask, when's the last time you played an AA Game?
my old saves do work for certain routes (with some dialog misplacement, and my old Jo route save basically making me need to replay the whole game just to get to the point I was at in it, as I am doing all the character routes on different saves) but otherwise, the saves in this game are fairly hardy to updates!
My old saves nearly never worked, but maybe it's android thing.
perhaps. *shrug*
Old saves are not compatible with the new update due to updating Renpy versions. Because of this, you would need to start fresh to avoid any bugs.
As for skipping the event, that will be implemented in the next update along with some other changes to music and sprites. However, right now, the event cannot be skipped outside of using the skip button (or pressing shift/ctrl on the keyboard
How do you guys managed to get jin's route on day 4 and day 5 on android, it seem mines skip to runan go to joseph house
Hmmm... Well, on Day 5, did you ask Jin if you wanted to visit where he lives? It's a detail quite a few people glossed over the first few times.
Yes but it still gives the same result
Your choices before this day matters. When visiting the construction area, be sure to ask on checking out Jin's house. If Jin says "ask Leo" instead of a reincheck, this means you did not hang out with him on prev days or did not choose the right responses. This is already a sign that you are locked out of his route. His route is purposefully made a bit harder to reach because of his mannerisms. Make sure to save often so you can reload if you ever make a mistake.
And in case some wonder, your dateable is not available all the time. Some days your dateable will not be available at all, because they are busy.
love the references to other games/VNs like Doki Doki Literature club! :D Hope you have more references!
also, koku is my beloved just as Sissel is my beloved in Repeat!
To think we got "Ace Attorney" game Ft. Outdated Autopsy Report. I wonder if protagonist going to get special ability as progress goes on.
“special ability”? What do you mean?
How do you get past the Part where you have to prove that the the suspect is Innocent
Not sure what specific part you're referring to, as the entire event leads up to that (hopefully, based on the decisions you've made), but regardless, the guide will tell you everything you need to know.
Guide: https://rodablackfang.itch.io/monster-village-vn/devlog/799985/chapter-3-guide-s...
Umm... I think there's two things I need to tell you.
First, I'm not the dev, so there's no need to respond to me about continuing the story.
And second, your comment contains enough spoilers to run the entire length of all eight worlds in New Super Mario Bros. Wii. I hope you can edit your comment so that no one can see that.
This was the absolute fucking BEST VN I've played in a Hot damn minute. The roundabout at the end was fucking BRILLIANT! I'm unironically saying this but Bravo!
Mí clasificación según con cada personaje sería
1 Koku
2 Joseph
3 Leo
4 Jin
5Redge
6Runan
Es según mí opinión cada uno puede tener su favorito además fue el primer que probé y además termine cada ruta de los personajes hace 5 días unas me conmovieron mucho, otros me hizo llorar.
No puedo esperar por el capítulo 4 y continuar con la historia gracias por traernos este juego 👍 ♥️
Oh my god, this update was fire, I want the next chapter on my table tomorrow. But I know it is tiring to make a masterpiece, so instead I'm gonna ask you guys to rest, for everything you done, hell the vn became ace attorney, so you guys overdid yourselves with this update. Rest cuz afterall:
"Everyone needs time to heal! This includes yourself."
❤️❤️❤️
1st Joseph
2nd Runan (very close 2nd)
3rd Jin
4th Ridge
5th Leo
6th Koku
what is y'all rankings?
1 — Ridge (Delinquents with a heart of gold are my jam)
2 — Joseph (I’m into Dilfs)
3 — Jin (He is cutie-patootie)
4 — Leo (Vanilla flirtatious choice)
5 — Koku (A little too naughty sometimes for my liking, at least Leo is sincere about it).
6 — Runan (His tsundere gimmick got gratingly annoying for me real fast)
It should be mentioned that I still like all characters, just not equally.
For me it would be:
1 - Runan (I love a passive agressive character for me)
2 - Joseph (Yes, the dilf reason too)
3 - Leo (I love his energy)
1st Leo (His “loose cannon” attitude makes him fun imo)
2nd Ridge (Same reasoning as Leo, though a different kind of “loose cannon”)
3rd Jin (He’s precious, what can I say?)
4th Runan (Tsundere gimmick comes off as humorous for me)
5th Joseph (I like his personality with valuing honesty, but he’s not really my type)
6th Koku (Not my type, sorry)
3rd-5th were hard to rank tbh
1st Joseph
2nd Jin
3rd: Runan (it was tough, but I rank Jin slightly higher than him.)
4th: Leo
5th: Ridge
6th: Koku
1st Leo/Jin/Joseph/Ridge/Runan/Koku
2nd none
1st Joseph (What else can I say except dilf)
2nd Runan (very close to being first)
3rd Jin (Hes just a littly too innocent and that makes my heart melt)
4th Leo (Funny tease)
5th Ridge (Hes not bad but the others are better)
6th Koku (I just see a child so thats a nope)
> I just see a child so thats a nope
This is not something I even realized until you have mentioned it lol. I guess that explains why he is so unpopular compared to others.
1. Ridge
2. Jin/Koku
3. Joseph/Leo
4. Runan
I...... I cannot rank them they are all precious. but.. if I have to choose one I choose Ridge. My opinion he needs us most he suffered enough.😔
I really love how the story went in this chapter- I'll admit it made me feel quite some emotional stuff there huhu- my dear Runan-
Good work as always you guys! You deserve a break after giving this wonderful update! I am greatful for this, truly! Rest well you all, you need it!
pls yall don't pressure the devs -.-, just be patient
Mandatory Ridge is best boi.
No objections here)
When will there be a new update for chapter 4, I need to know!!!! 😭😭😭😭
Whoa there, calm down. I know you're eager for the next chapter, what with the story as it is right now, but the update's only been out for a month. The devs will need some more time before they can release the next one.
I don't know if you've read the devlogs yet, but I think I've heard the devs mention that they're aiming to release the next update before the end of the year (this is purely conjecture, but it could mean some time in December). If that's not to be, then maybe some time in January. Then again, it could take longer, because I'm pretty sure you know how many curveballs daily life likes to throw.
So until then, just be patient, okay? There's no need to pressure them like this...
Also, the devs said they wanted to take a bit of a break before working on the next part
It has been a single month since chapter 3, please be Patient.. If we over work them, it'll never get done. So instead of badgering them about it, please be Patient
That is very disrespectful question.
I wanna ask, is it possible to date two characters at once ?
I remember the devs saying that it's just not feasible right now. I'm pretty sure they've been thinking about it, but I don't think that'll be implemented any time soon.
It might just be me, but I think dating two characters at once would require additional dialogue and significant changes in story direction, and that will take a lot more time than intended.
As ShroudedLion said, we will not be implementing poly relationships mostly because we don't want it to be... "forced". Like how shipping between characters then inserting the Scriviner in that relationship, or vice versa.
Once we get a better idea of polycules, we might implement it, but with our current experience (both irl and in media), we are not ready to even dive into the thought yet.
Especially ships that are a bit more... risque
Saddening but understandable. Thanks for clearing things up
Spoilers
I have a problem, I took the route of Koku, I had answered all the questions correctly up to a certain point, even with the medical evidence.
But then comes the point where it doesn't go any further, and then I took question five and then I took the bullet as proof and then I took question six, which didn't help either, and then I did the same thing again in reverse.
Then I had a quick look at the guide the developer posted here, right up to this point, only I looked at it and didn't do anything wrong.
This is a bug ? that is triggered by the game and prevents it from continuing.
Spoiler answer:
Also, for anyone, questions regarding the Guide should be in the guide devlog instead to help others too.
I dont think I understood what you meant..... But I understand medical report so I am assuming you're in the second cross... but If you check the guide, the order of actions is important, otherwise it might just be the wrong evidence or line you're reading. (The reason why I didn't specify the line in the guide is to help you connect the dots rather than just breezing through, so it might be confusing on the numbering,)
For the second cross, question the 5th line, and the 6th line would change. Basically adding something new. Then present the evidence on the new info, which is the 6th line after questioning. Remember, if you are stuck, question every line. You will get new info and important hints. There is a hint in every cross that does help you even without checking the guide.
Spoiler.
What I wanted to say is that I haven't used the help yet and I haven't had any problems with it so far, not even with the first cross, and something new has been added, that wasn't a problem.
But with the second cross, as I said, if I then ask the fifth question and then present the bullet as evidence, nothing new comes up and I've already tried everything.
nothing is updated and nothing new comes out of it, not even new dialogues.
And that's what I meant, and then I had a quick look at the help, but only up to the bullet, not everything else, because it really is a great mechanic and I really like it.
Because I don't need any other help, I just had a quick look at the second cross to see why it wasn't working and did what I'd already done without looking.
The only reason I can think of is that I used the save state from chapter 2 and this caused an error.
And I also want to give a big shout out to this VM, the characters are wonderfully written, every single one of them and in general it's a very special VM, which I haven't seen before in any other before one.
Hey there dev/s, just wanted to leave this message because this FVN honestly got me reading Ridge's route for like the 5th time and made an unfinished paper behind his attachment style, I can't get over with this character. The FVN's really good, just know to take as much time that you need to release the next chapter, I can tell the latest update was made with so much love and you guys had fun with that special addition. Keep up the great work.
Help, Im stuck with asking gerald questions and I dont know how to proceed, please help?!
This guide the devs made will help you not only with that part, but also the whole thing. Hope you get through it!
Guide:https://rodablackfang.itch.io/monster-village-vn/devlog/799985/chapter-3-guide-s...
thank you so much!!
Why am I stuck on chapter three and keep asking Gerald over and over again😭